No debate. Can't change my mind about it. It's disrespectful.
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@Beester master What would you propose in that case? The German Empire from 1848 didn't have a fascist regime at all and it all seems to point out that the only alternative that was left on the table is not allowed by Roblox.
@PanzerundLancer Who knows. Literally even the Iron Cross would've probably been way better than the double-headed eagle. It's a military symbol, after all.
Obviously. Still, I propose they could've used something else instead of a cultural symbol. Maybe a Valknut or something. Could make more sense with the meaning behind those symbols.
Good joke! Russia doesn't have any external support other than from China and North Korea, and we all know the budget of communist countries are a joke on the modern era. The most support Russia will even get will most likely be diplomatic support, but that's about it. Their naval force is seriously weakened; so much that their only Naval Carrier spends more time on forts and reparations than in open water. It also doesn't help a lot the fact that most of Europe has cut all relations and commercial trade with Russia, and also made multiple naval blockades to isolate them from the West hemisphere.
I think you should change your information source one of these days. Could help you a lot, y'know.
@CentralGermany Probably the smartest comment in here ( Following @The5thPentagonMade ).
You're pretty correct about your opinion, but we must consider that Hyperant decided the ideology system to be based on rather a levelled system instead of a separate one. (In case you don't understand, I'm talking about the fact the Nationalism ideology tree leads to Fascism as a stronger ideology.)
@PanzerundLancer You figure it out, butter brain!
@The5thPentagonMade I'm pretty sure even the Deutsches Reich from 1848 wasn't fascist at all; it was more British-inspired, since it was a constitutional monarchy. Even more, it was partially recognized. Plus, many of the culture regarding the era was still from people attached to the HRE. To finish it off even worse, Frederick William IV was offered the imperial crown but he refused it since he didn't want to "pick up a crown from the gutter".
Sounds pretty fascist to me. (Sarcasm)
@Sovereign Crescent Well, you were the one to start making us change the topic. The double-headed eagle is a holy symbol from the HRE. It has its origins from catholic priests; the oldest known use of it starting by the era of Charlemagne. Other examples can be the Emperor Otto III and the Emperor Frederick Barbarossa. The list goes on and on.
The reason why it is so unpopular nowadays is because the Reichsadler and other historical figures and symbols were bastardized and used as propaganda by the Third Reich, and now they're mispurposely taken as Nazi symbols.
So in short words: The Reichsadler or double-headed eagle is not a Nazi symbol; it's a religious symbol.
@Sovereign Crescent It sees nationalism just as an excuse to maintain the big leaders running the fascist government. Fascism is still a totalitarian ideology in itself, so it doesn't allow free opinion or free vote. In fact, many totalitarian states have silenced and killed their own people because of them opposing the running government inside the country.
If you aren't able to difference Nationalism from Fascism, then I cannot really keep a conversation like this ongoing on the post. Case closed.
@Sovereign Crescent It is also a dynamic flag for the Fascism ideology however. The double-headed eagle is a symbol that should never be related with Fascism under any means. This also applies to literally any other symbol that was used during the HRE.
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@MatthewJabezNazarioI Thank you.
@TheSinnohStaraptor Basically they just put in a coat of arms with a religious symbol from the Germanic culture (The two-headed eagle from the HRE in this case) and called it Nationalist / Fascist by making it an ideological flag.
No debate. Can't change my mind about it. It's disrespectful.